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Before I get onto today's meme question, I have one for you, lovely flist. I'm finally getting started on the epic EOT9 Quaint English Tearoom AU idea I've had languishing in a corner of my brain for ages, and I could really do with someone still in the fandom to bounce ideas off, send rough sketches to, and figure out all sorts of ridiculous ways to incorporate things from the book (and maybe a little bit of film stuff, but I want this to be mostly book-verse) because I may be drawing a quaint English version of the ubiquitous Coffeeshop AU, but dammit, this is not going to be Any Two Guys Gen fanart! I'm not so much looking for an art beta (just yet), more someone who will help me figure out how to do things like come up with modern-day looks for Dergadian and Liathan or help me figure out how to draw book-verse Esca (SO stuck on this) and also endure a lot of talk about tearoom decorations and how to subtly Romanise. So if you fancy me pestering you for the next few months, please do let me know!


[livejournal.com profile] bunn asked: Talk about Father Ted! Do you draw anything Teddish or is it more of a distant love from Far Away?

CHAIR! CURTAINS! FLOOR! GOBSHITE!

...no wait, I mean FATHER TED, LOVE OF MY LIFE. I have seen all the episodes a million times and if I ever catch it on TV I will probably stop whatever I am doing and watch it all, because the humour never, ever gets old. You don't have to be Catholic to enjoy it (but it doesn't hurt), and even my dear late hardcore Catholic grandmother who took religion Very Seriously (she had an alter in the middle of the living room) thought it was extremely funny. I'm not sure if I really have a favourite episode, but I think some of the best ones were in the third series. Speed 3 was utterly brilliant... but then so was Escape from Victory with the old priests and the football match and Mrs Doyle learning how to love football! Oh, but I also adore the episode where Ted is (not) a racist because of that brilliant ending, and the Hell episode where Ted and Dougal go on a caravan holiday is also pretty hysterical. These cows are very small; those cows are far away! Mrs Doyle is totally my favourite character, because I want her to live with me and constantly make me tea and sandwiches. Not that I don't enjoy the task of tea-making myself! When I lived with my fellow tea-loving uni flatmates (also big Ted fans), cries of MAYBE I LIKE THE MISERY were often heard while the kettle was boiling.

I have never drawn anything Teddish, alas. It's one of those things I love that I'll probably never draw anything for unless someone comes up to me and deposits a delicious fat squirmy idea into my lap that I fall in love with immediately. Mind you, last year I saw a request for Father Ted/Father Dick Byrne on fandom_stocking and immediately the pairing was sold to me (although I still don't have any ideas for fanart). I mean, think about it - Ted and Dick are pretty much the same person and Ted does have a slightly inflated opinion of himself, so I don't see what's really standing in their way, apart from a huge, seething hatred of each other. It would be beautiful hatesex, though.

Date: 2013-12-17 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com
Father Ted love! [livejournal.com profile] sineala introduced me to it and IT IS GLORIOUS. Now I want to show it to my friends so we can shout MAYBE I LIKE THE MISERY at each other during our alarmingly frequent tea-brewings.

I don't think I could write anything Father Teddish, either, the show is just so perfectly hilarious that I don't think I could live up to it.

Date: 2013-12-18 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motetus.livejournal.com
You should! If they put up resistance, pretend to be Mrs Doyle trying to interest Ted in yet another cup of tea, and in under half an hour they should crack.

I think brilliant comedies like that are impossible to write equally brilliant fic for - even if you've kidnapped Graham Linehan himself and are forcing him at gunpoint to write your witty, hilarious fic for you, it's probably still going to feel lame compared to the canon material because the actors are what really make it.

Date: 2013-12-18 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com
This is so true. I'm sometimes sad that there's not more fic for comedy shows, because even though what we have is glorious there is never enough - but without the actors there to make faces and fall over things it's just never the same, even if the fic writer is brilliant at punchlines.

And angst is a lot easier to write, anyway. Suddenly I understand why all the Scrubs fic was so inexplicably angst-ridden!

Date: 2013-12-17 10:24 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
FATHER TED!

The episode where Father Jack learns to say 'that would be an ecumenical matter' came on the other day, and clearly we had to stop everything and watch it. The Holy Stone of Clonrichert! 'Will it still be a Class II after it's been removed...?' :-D

I honestly think every episode can have a claim to be the best one, although the ones with extra Mrs Doyle certainly have an edge.

Also I will be leaving Eagle fandom only when they pry my copy of Eagle of the Ninth from my cold, dead fingers, and am happy to kick Teashop Ideas about if that's any good to you (are teashops also a fandom? I feel they should be).

Date: 2013-12-17 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motetus.livejournal.com
Oh god yes, and the bit where the other priest asks Dougal if he has any doubts about the priesthood and he describes everything the church is built upon - brilliant, just brilliant. Am sure I went through something similar in my early teens, but at least I never got as far as becoming a hippy.

Hurrah, I shall hurry up and get working on a rough layout (because doodles of Cub looking longingly at a tower of cupcakes honey cakes might be nice, but it's not quite enough to create a whole tearoom around) and then come harass you about what the lunch specials on the blackboard should be.

...no wait, I've worked it out myself: FISH AND BOILED EGGS. :D

Date: 2013-12-17 10:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
Oh the poor hippy bishop - and how typical that Dougal's one successful conversion was going the wrong way.

Yay Cub! Is Sassticca going to be in the tearoom or is she Marcus's old nanny who sends him recipes and nice warm scarves to wear in the post?

Fish and eggs? Fish and eggs??

Date: 2013-12-18 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motetus.livejournal.com
Yes, fish and eggs! Film!Stephanos might not be in this picture due to its bookversyness, but his culinary masterpiece will ensure he's not forgotten entirely!

I am thinking I will have Sassticca somewhere in there, preferably waving a soup ladle threateningly at someone.

Date: 2013-12-18 02:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
Fish and Eggs! Of course! Clearly I must watch the movie again, for I had forgotten Stephanos' menu choices...

Date: 2013-12-17 06:21 pm (UTC)
fififolle: (Otter - cannot unsee)
From: [personal profile] fififolle
omg Ted/Dick. Help! *scrubs brain* LOL!!! There's nothing funnier than a perfectly placed smudge on a window. Oh Ted :)

I know I'm new to Eagle of the Ninth, but at least it's not long since I read the book :p I'd be very happy to look at things and think about things like that. Do feel free to ask. If I'm no earthly use just say *g*

Date: 2013-12-17 10:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
That otter has exactly the face my husband made when he wandered past a screen on which I had incautiously left motetus's post open, and read the Ted/Dick idea... :-D

Date: 2013-12-18 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motetus.livejournal.com
Tell Pp I'm so sorry. And then tell him how my headcanon is that they're both incredibly aroused under those priest trousers every time they have one of their sneering abusive phonecalls.

:D

Date: 2013-12-18 06:51 pm (UTC)
fififolle: (Primeval - LMAO)
From: [personal profile] fififolle
*sporfle*

Date: 2013-12-18 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motetus.livejournal.com
Come now, you know Ted and Dick's hatred of each other stems from an unfortunate romantic misunderstanding! :D

Thanks for the offer! Might pester you later about it, because right now it's mostly in my head and in a few extremely bad scribbles that even I struggle to figure out what I was trying to draw.

Date: 2013-12-18 06:53 pm (UTC)
fififolle: (Football kiss)
From: [personal profile] fififolle
Naturally! *g*

I look forward to that :D

Date: 2013-12-17 09:40 pm (UTC)
bauble: (lady windswept hair)
From: [personal profile] bauble
I have thought of another question to pelt you with!

Food related, because food is all important: chocolate or vanilla? Coffee or tea? Nuts or no nuts?

Date: 2013-12-18 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motetus.livejournal.com
I hope you are asking this so you know what kind of massive, overpriced hamper to order for me, because making me think about such delicious things when I'm starving and still have a few more hours of bacteria wrangling to get through is just cruel. :(

Date: 2013-12-17 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weekend.livejournal.com
I can't believe you didn't mention My Lovely Horse! :D Although my favourite episode is probably the one about kicking Bishop Brennan up the arse.....ooh, no, the one where the crows steal Father Jack's glasses....no, wait, my absolute favourite has to be the one where the TV is broken so Dougal puts his face into the frame, and then Father Jack sobers up and is like "how did that gobshite get on the telly?!" It cracks me up EVERY TIME. But they're all great!

Date: 2013-12-18 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motetus.livejournal.com
Yes, but what about the one where Bishop Brennan is staying overnight and is terrified of rabbits, and then he wakes up in the middle of the night surrounded by hundreds of rabbits, and Ted and Dougal are carrying rabbits, and Father Jack is also in bed with him? Or the Christmas episode with baaaaby Kevin McKidd and Ireland's biggest lingerie department... okay, I've decided what my Christmas day viewing is going to be.

Date: 2013-12-18 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carmarthen.livejournal.com
I'm only semi in the fandom and not English, but happy top bounce ideas if that would help!

Date: 2013-12-18 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motetus.livejournal.com
Awesome, thanks! I should probably start putting a few more scribbles down on paper before I start harassing everyone, so you've got a few weeks to prepare yourself for my rather lame idea of humour. :D

Date: 2013-12-31 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] island-of-reil.livejournal.com
help me figure out how to draw book-verse Esca (SO stuck on this)

I'm writing a postbook longfic, it's been in the works for some time now, and I'm still not entirely sure what I want Esca to look like. Other than that he has "wide-set grey eyes," Sutcliff didn't describe his features at all.

...no wait, I mean FATHER TED, LOVE OF MY LIFE.

Have you ever read "Father Stannis" (http://archiveofourown.org/works/750092)? It's hilarious. And believe it or not, rated G.

(I am not a GoT/ASoIaF fan, but I've absorbed enough of the canon through osmosis to get a lot of the jokes.)

Date: 2014-01-01 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motetus.livejournal.com
It's been a while since I've read EOT9, but I think I remember Esca being taller and broader than Marcus? Or I could have imagined that entirely. *squints* Maybe I should reread before I start drawing him, although I'm so fond of Jamie Bell's Esca that I'll probably end up giving him similar features, with an additional huge moustache.

Hah, I watch the TV series, but it still took me a very, very long time to figure out which one Stannis is. And then I had to do the same with the other priests... bloody fantasy and their ridiculous numbers of characters!

Date: 2014-01-01 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] island-of-reil.livejournal.com
Book!Esca is taller and broader ("powerfully built," Sutcliff wrote) than book!Marcus is, but he's still not very tall for a Briton. In modern terms I'd say "average height."
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